Is there a problem with Islamic Monotheism?

Part 2

Sami Zaatari

 

We resume our refutation to Shamoun's claims that there are supposed problems with Islamic Monotheism, I urge all readers to go read part one:

http://muslim-responses.com/Pure_Monotheism/Pure_Monotheism_

With that said let us continue exposing Shamoun's complete ignorance in Islamic monotheism, he writes:

The point isn't simply that the Quran says to fear the wombs, but that it does so by conjoining it with fearing Allah through the use of the Arabic conjunction wa ("and"), which as we saw in part 1 is the conjunction of partnership and equality according to Muslim expositors and scholars!

Another supposed scholar who held this position was the late Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab himself, the man who was mainly responsible for the resurgence and revival of the modern Salafi cult (considered a deviant sect by many Muslim scholars because of its blatant distortions of early Islamic teachings). He exhorted his followers in his book on monotheism to avoid using wa when referring to Allah together with someone or something else. He stated that a Muslim should rather use the conjunction thumma ("then") or some other formulation which avoids associating Allah with anything:

A Jewish man came to the Prophet and said: "Verily, you (Muslims) commit Shirk, for you say: ?As Allah wills AND as you will;' and you say: ?By the Ka'bah!'" And so the Prophet ordered whoever wanted to swear, to say: "By the Lord of the Ka'bah" and to say: "As Allah wills, THEN as you will." (An-Nasaa'ee, it was declared saheeh by Albanee in as Saheehah # 137 and declared saheeh by Adh-Dhahabee in his checking of Al Mustadrak and declared saheeh by Ibn Hajar in Al Isaabah 4/389)

A man came to the Prophet and he said: "As Allah AND you will," at which the Prophet said: "Would you set me up as a partner besides Allah? As Allah Alone Wills" (An-Nasaa'ee, declared authentic (hasan) by Albanee in as Saheehah # 139)

On the authority of At-Tufail the half brother of Aishah it is reported that he said: "I saw in a dream that I came upon a number of Jews and I said to them: ?You are indeed a good people were it not that you claim ?Uzair is the son of Allah.' They replied: ?You too are good, were it not that you say: As Allah wills AND as Muhammad wills.' Then, I came upon a number of Christians and I said to them: ?You are indeed a good people were it not that you claim the Messiah (Jesus) is the son of Allah.' They replied: ?You are also good, were it not that you say: As Allah wills AND as Muhammad wills.' When I awoke I told someone about this then I went to the Prophet and repeated it to him. He asked me: ?Have you told anyone about this?' I said: ?Yes.' Then he went to the pulpit and, after praising Allah, he said: ?At-Tufail had a dream which he has already communicated to some of you. You used to say something which I was prevented from forbidding to you until now. Henceforth do not say: As Allah wills AND as Muhammad wills, but say: What Allah Alone Wills.'" (Ibn Maajah, Albanee mentioned it in as Saheehah # 138, Al Haythamee said in Majma Az-Zawaaid: the men in its chain are reliable according to the conditions of Imam Muslim) (Takhreej of Kitaab at Tawheed, posted by SalafiManhaj.com, 2004, Chapter 43: Saying: "As Allah Wills and You Will", pp. 21-22; See also Kitab At-Tawheed, by Sheikh ul-Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab, translated by the Compilation and Research Department Dar-us-Salam [Dar-us-Salam Publications Riyadh-Saudi Arabia, 1996], Chapter No: 44. How it is to say "What Allah may will and you may will"; capital, italic and underline emphasis ours)

This proves that the Quran is commanding Muslims to fear the relationships established by the wombs in the same way that they fear Allah. The Islamic scripture is therefore exhorting the so-called believers to commit shirk, or of associating partners with Allah in his exclusive worship!

RESPONSE

So Shamoun's argument is that when the Quran uses WA, meaning and, in conjunction with Allah, meaning Allah AND so and so, this equals partnership and equality between Allah and the next thing or person that is mentioned, so for instance if the Quran says Allah and Muhammad (AS), or Allah and the Wombs then this supposedly means that Allah and the prophet Muhammad (AS) are equals, and it means that Allah and the Wombs are equals as well.

For starters let us actually see what Shamoun quoted in his first article:

The fact that mention of the Prophet is directly connected to mention of Allah also shows that obedience to the Prophet is connected to obedience to Allah and his name to Allah's name. Allah says, "Obey Allah and His Messenger" (2:32) and "Believe in Allah and His Messenger." (4:136) Allah joins them together using the conjunction wa WHICH IS THE CONJUNCTION OF PARTNERSHIP. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO USE THIS CONJUNCTION IN CONNECTION WITH ALLAH IN THE CASE OF ANYONE EXCEPT THE PROPHET.

Where in the above does it say ANYTHING about equality?

Shamoun is so ignorant he thinks Abdul Wahab taught against using AND in conjunction with Allah, yet let us quote what Abdul Wahab actually said:

A Jewish man came to the Prophet and said: "Verily, you (Muslims) commit Shirk, for you say: ?As Allah wills AND AS YOU WILL;' and you say: ?By the Ka'bah!'" And so the Prophet ordered whoever wanted to swear, to say: "By the Lord of the Ka'bah" and to say: "As Allah wills, THEN as you WILL." (An-Nasaa'ee, it was declared saheeh by Albanee in as Saheehah # 137 and declared saheeh by Adh-Dhahabee in his checking of Al Mustadrak and declared saheeh by Ibn Hajar in Al Isaabah 4/389)

A man came to the Prophet and he said: "As Allah AND you will," at which the Prophet said: "Would you set me up as a partner besides Allah? As Allah Alone Wills" (An-Nasaa'ee, declared authentic (hasan) by Albanee in as Saheehah # 139)

Shamoun is so ignorant and confused he only concentrated on the AND part, but didn't read the main important part, which was that people were saying as Allah wills and as Muhammad WILLS, the main emphasis is on the WILL, not the and!

The whole issue is SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SAYING YOUR WILL! And the whole point is that you cannot say as Allah and Muhammad (AS) wills, because it's not up to the prophet Muhammad's will or anyone else's will, it is only up to Allah's will, and no one has a say in it. This is precisely why the prophet said say as Allah wills THEN, the prophet even said say THEN, not AND! Did Shamoun miss all of this?

Shamoun is making it out that Abdul Wahab is making this teaching up, yet Abdul Wahab is quoting the very hadith where the prophet himself says don't say AND, say THEN!!

Furthermore, the very chapter Shamoun quotes from is titled as:

Chapter 43: Saying: "As Allah Wills and You Will",

The whole chapter's emphasis is SPECIFICALLY on saying as Allah wills and you wills, that's it, it's on the willing, and Abdul Wahab is saying in this specific regards you shouldn't say as Allah and so and so wills, but as Allah wills stop, then so and so, and Abdul Wahab quotes the hadith! If Abdul Wahab was against saying Allah and the prophet, then why didn't he make other chapters in his book saying don't say obey Allah and the prophet, and the many other verses which say Allah and?

In fact this ignorant missionary failed to realize that the earlier scholars he quoted SAID THE SAME THING AS ABDUL WAHAB, I will re-quote them from Shamoun himself:

Hudhayfa said that the Prophet said, "None of you should say, ?What Allah wills and (wa) so-and-so wills.' Rather say, ?What Allah wills.' Then stop and say, ?So-and-so wills.'"

Al-Khattabi said, "The Prophet has guided you to correct behaviour in putting the will of Allah before the will of others. He chose ?THEN' (thumma) which implies sequence and deference as opposed to ?AND' (wa) WHICH IMPLIES PARTNERSHIP."

Something similar is mentioned in another hadith. Someone was speaking in the presence of the Prophet and said, "Whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger has been rightly guided, and whoever rebels against them both (joining them together by using the dual form) ." The Prophet said to him, "What a bad speaker you are! Get up! [Or he said: Get out!]"

Abu Sulayman said, "He disliked the two names being joined together in that way because it implies equality."

All of these scholars are SPECIFICALLY talking about the will issue, such as saying as Allah wills and you will, THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT OTHER STATEMENTS such as obey Allah and the prophet Muhammad etc.

So it seems Shamoun just confused himself, and even provided the ammo to smoke himself, the icing on the cake is that Shamoun tries to attack Abdul Wahab's scholarship when the very scholars Shamoun quoted in his first article SAY THE SAME THING ABDUL WAHAB SAID!

So sorry Sam, I suggest you do your homework; the entire issue you just raised is simply concentrated to the sentence:

As Allah and you will

That's it, and the scholars are saying that in this regard, you cannot say and, and their proof is the prophet Muhammad himself who said when it comes to this statement, do not say and, rather you should say As Allah wills, stop, then say THUMMA. Shamoun has taken an issue related to a specific matter and has decided to apply this in a general way, and has even deceptively abused the scholars he quoted since he is using their quotes and the intention of their quotes in a completely distorted fashion. The scholars are talking about a specific matter, with their intention on this specific matter, and this deceptive missionary takes these quotes and applies them to other situations which the scholars were not even talking about! That is not honest argumentation at all.

So this brings us to the conclusion of part 2, more rebuttals will follow, but as anyone can clearly see Shamoun is completely ignorant and out of his range when it comes to this topic, I seriously suggest Shamoun studies Tawheed, and he starts paying attention to what he actually quotes.

And Allah Knows Best!

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