Greater than the Holy Spirit?


Sami Zaatari




As we all know Trinitarian Christians believe that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all God.


One verse that we Muslims have shown to debunk the notion that Jesus is God is that of John 10:29 which reads as follows:


My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


So as you can see Jesus states the Father is greater than all. Now this verse proves Jesus is not God since how can he be God if the Father is greater than him? The obvious answer is that he can't. Since Christians know this is a problem they have come up with a nice answer saying that yes the Father is greater than the MAN Jesus, and not the divine Jesus.


This is a very nice answer with one major problem, Jesus never said anything about having a man and divine nature, Christians invented such a doctrine up to get rid of such problems! When Jesus is ignorant, they say it's the man Jesus, when he prays; it's the man Jesus and so on. Yet I repeat Jesus never said I have dual natures, this is a fabricated doctrine.


Now having said all that, what about the Holy Spirit? Notice the passage says that the Father is greater than ALL, this must include the Holy Spirit. Now unlike Jesus the Holy Spirit never supposedly took on a man nature and gave up on it's divine nature, the Holy Spirit always remained as it is.


So therefore we have a clear verse that now states that the Father is GREATER than the Holy Spirit, and I ask how can that be if the Holy Spirit is God? The answer is simple, it can't! The fact is is that the Holy Spirit is NOT God which is why the Father is greater than it, and the same goes for Jesus.


Neither Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are God which is precisely why the Father is greater than both of them, and why both of them are never called greater than the Father.


No Trinity I'm afraid.


And Allah Knows Best!