Another problem for the Trinity and Christian theology

Sami Zaatari

 

There are some Christians who use the following passages to try and claim that Jesus is God:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (Matthew 28:18)

Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God (John 13:3)

So Christians claim that Jesus must be God because all things are given to him, all power, authority, and control.

For starters these two verses prove that Jesus is not God, because he is given power and authority, which shows he is not all powerful, and which shows he doesn't really own the power and authority, had he been God he would have already had it, but since he is a prophet, this is precisely what we expect to see, God giving Jesus power and authority.

Secondly, the Greek word that is used for ALL in the two above passages is called PAS, anyone who has bothered to study the Greek will learn that when the word PAS is used, it does not literally have to mean EVERYTHING.

So the Christian has basically taken the verses literally, they have taken the word all (PAS) in the literal sense, and this creates more problems than it solves!

Let us assume that all power was given to Jesus, well if this is the case, then this means that the Father and Holy spirit are left with no power at all! The Christian cannot have his cake and eat it, and it is high time the Christians are held to these problems, if the Christian says that Jesus LITERALLY IS GIVEN EVERYTHING, then this means the others are left with nothing, there is no two ways about it.

If I give someone all authority, and I mean LITERALLY all authority, as the Christian believes, then I am left with no authority at all, because I have just given the person everything! So Christians have been caught out by their own belief here, and they have no way out of this at all, the only real solution the Christian does have is to accept that the above two passages does not literally mean that Jesus was given everything, that is the only way out, and if they do take this route, then they affirm that Jesus is not God, so it is a lose-lose situation.

Of course it wouldn't surprise me if the Christian started inventing things again, by that I mean they start making their own definitions and silly logic as to how everything can literally be given to someone, yet the other person still has the same equal authority!

Now let us get rid of one possible Christian responses, a Christian may say well sometimes person A can give authority to person B, but that does not mean that person A is left with no authority. Well I would agree with this, however so this is not what you believe, nor is this what the passages state, the Christian believes that God the Father LITERALLY gave EVERYTHING to Jesus, you see, the Christian LITERAL interpretation is causing them the most trouble, the passages according to the Christian literal view does not say God gave power to Jesus, rather it says that God gave ALL power to Jesus, he gave him EVERYTHING, hence this Christian response will not work. When I give someone something, and authority, I don't give him all of it, and in that way I am still left with power and authority.

So as I said, the Christian has no way out of this, all he will do is create false analogies that do not match the situation, or his belief.

And Allah Knows Best!

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